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How come?

Post by Tricobalt » Sun Dec 03, 2006 8:13 am

How come lately there is a increasing number of advertisements spammed on our forum? Is it because we were featured in that magazine a while back or does it has some other reason? :?

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Post by Callie » Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:29 am

Good question trico..and many of them are not guest but registrated usesers to -.-
Give admin rights and i will delete every damn spambot post and some other to :)
Do i have to write something here?

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Post by Tricobalt » Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:47 am

Callie wrote:Good question trico..and many of them are not guest but registrated usesers to -.-
Give admin rights and i will delete every damn spambot post and some other to :)
aye i've been looking a bit to their stuff and they are so easy to recongnize. 90% is from the US and they have some really boring cliché interest/occupation and some advert website in their profile.
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Post by MegaZonk » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:35 am

....and you can get software like this http://www.botmaster.net/more1/ , so any body could be a f...ing spammer :evil:

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Post by Tricobalt » Sun Dec 03, 2006 10:40 am

MegaZonk wrote:....and you can get software like this http://www.botmaster.net/more1/ , so any body could be a f...ing spammer :evil:
it's sad to know there are accually people out there who think of such programms :cry:
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Post by Callie » Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:27 am

MegaZonk wrote:....and you can get software like this http://www.botmaster.net/more1/ , so any body could be a f...ing spammer :evil:
Oh great..its only cost 400$...think im going to get me one :?
Tho..i guess does who use it get money from companys they advertise for.
Do i have to write something here?

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Post by Tricobalt » Sun Dec 03, 2006 12:14 pm

well if it costs 400 bucks i guess i can be made. So i also presume there are advertisers who have home-made ones.

anyway, looking at the members list, over 30 people joined our forum in the last 3 days, and almost all of em have some website they are advertising, they don't all post but still. I guess the only solution is to manually delete em or whatever. But if that is the case, why not make it harder to registrate? That way you know if people joined they are serious about it and not just trying to be some commercial.

Is that even possible? or am I just rambling about stupid idea's now?
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Post by Firejack » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:19 pm

Bots are nothing new to the forums. We've had problems with them for around 18 months now.
The current problem is there is no way to counter them. I was collecting IP addresses in the hope of identifying the source of the bots as they were most likely all being sent from the same server or ISP. Unfortunately they have come from all around the world making it impossible to block them at source.
The anti-spam measures built into the forum software can now be read by the bots making it useless. I added a mod to the forums the other week to stop the bots but it appears they can also read this now too.
There is no real way to counter the bots as they are becoming more and more sophisticated. The next version of the forum software should have added features to stop the bots. Alli has also suggested he could make a custom anti-bot feature. This seems the best (only?) option for the time being.
Deleting them manually is a pain as there is no easy way to mass delete them.
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Post by Callie » Sun Dec 03, 2006 3:38 pm

Just give me back the mod rights i had for some time and i can take the job deleting every bot post here.
And does other forums have the same problem as this with all the bots?
Do i have to write something here?

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Post by Kati » Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:17 am

FZ doesn't. :twisted:

I think FJ should usergroup restrict everything but the support and recruitment ones. Should help a little, for the time being....
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Post by allicorn » Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:12 pm

Ok, TNGC's shiny new anti-spam-destructo-bot is on the case! Hopefully we should see an immediate and fairly dramatic reduction in the amount of garbage posted by non-members (garbage posted by members will remain unaffected ;-) ).

For the technically minded, here is a schematic of our new robot...

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Post by Tricobalt » Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:24 pm

but alli, if it doesn't affect the spam from the members i guess it won't have much use since more than half of the adverts are made by bots who registrated first :?

Not saying it's a bad thing though, i guess every thing adds up.
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Post by Firejack » Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:27 pm

In the excitement of adding the Robot pic Alli forgot to mention registered users who have less then 10 posts can't post links either 8)
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Post by allicorn » Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:28 pm

Ah, the trick is you see, it can tell the difference between morons who only signed up to post spam... and other morons :-D

Smart cookie that robot ;-)

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Post by Tricobalt » Mon Dec 04, 2006 8:38 pm

Firejack wrote:In the excitement of adding the Robot pic Alli forgot to mention registered users who have less then 10 posts can't post links either 8)
Ooh, now that makes me feel like the ending of the endless adverts is finally in sight! It makes me feel all snuggely when i think of a non advert spamming forum, even though i have more than 10 posts so i can continue on my life work of brabbeling useless stuff i guess :P
allicorn wrote:Ah, the trick is you see, it can tell the difference between morons who only signed up to post spam... and other morons :-D

Smart cookie that robot ;-)

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